The NYU School of Law announced Mark would be one of the panelists at the Center On Law And Security.
Amid the debate over the threat posed by homegrown Islamic terrorism, CFR Associate Staff Writer Jonathan Masters interviewed Mark. He told CFR “A more aware and educated police officer or agent, who understands and is trained in community-engagement strategies, can certainly go a long way in curbing violent extremism.” Mark pointed out that the Muslim American community is very engaged in trying to help law enforcement thwart terrorism and that tips from that community were the source of information that led to potential terrorist plots in forty-eight our of 120 cased studied.
The Saban Center for Middle East Policy at Brookings hosted Mark and Micheal Gelles to address the challenges of fighting radicalization and explain the deradicalization and counterterrorism policies of five countries visited while conducting study of violent extremists.
In an article published in the Singapore Strait Times, Mark told them his job was not to hand out justice or enact revenge, but to elicit accurate and reliable evidence or intelligence — by lawful means. Mark told the Strait Times interrogators could improve their skills with coursed on rapport-building, interviewing skills, memory recall techniques and psychology.
The Straits Times wrote a feature article about Mark and interrogation methods in their series featuring people in the fight against terror. Mark said that contrary to popular belief that terrorists are well-trained to resist interrogation techniques, they usually receive little or poor training. Mark told The Strait Times “No two terrorists are the same, and there is no single silver bullet that will solve all of the interrogator’s problems” but when you treat someone with dignity and respect, they begin to trust you.
Mark wrote a commentary for a special edition of the Journal of Applied Cognitive Psychology about some of the latest emerging research about interviews, interrogation and detecting deception. Mark explained that the lack of evidence-based research on interrogation created a murky claimant, where proponents of torture were able to cherry-pick information with dubious claims that abusive interrogations and torture would be effective.
Mark was interviewed for The Stream on Al Jazeera and discussed the role of medical professionals in torture. Mark said that the CIA outsourced torture to SERE psychologists lacking meaning experience in interrogation or terrorism to create the EIT program. Mark explained SERE, by design, hardens resistance and that Mitchell and Jessen damaged U.S. national security by the shameful practices they implemented.
Motherboard reporter Kaleigh Rogers interviewed Mark for her article in Motherboard about the CIA torture program. Mark told Motherboard he was unable to convince leaders that rapport-building techniques would be more effective. Mark told Motherboard he still wonders what intelligence the CIA might have missed by not using tried-and-true methods and that the new scientific research can now inform interrogation planning.
Peter Bergen moderated a panel discussion with Dr Melissa Russano, Dr. Christian Meissner, Colonel Steven Kleinman, USAF-retired and Mark focusing on abusive tactics, the efficacy of interrogation methods and whether or not abusive tactics were necessary to elicit intelligence. Panelists discussed the efficacy of ethical, science-based methods that treat detainees with respect and elicit accurate and reliable information.
Mark told Newsweek that preconceived fixation can blind an interrogators judgement to other leads and compromise their judgement. Mark emphasized that the public’s idea of torture as a necessary evil must change. He said torture has made us less safe.